Four of them used one phrase or the other, and ten of twelve men in our focus group said they felt the same way: The singles scene had lost some of its appeal. Many men reluctantly admitted that for more than a year, they had felt uncomfortable in the singles world where they had been hanging out for the past five years. The singles world for professionals obviously is an older and more sophisticated crowd than that for men whose formal education ended in high school, but eventually men from both groups had the same experience.
Three young men who had graduated from the same high school were in one focus group made up of men who were about to marry. One was a plumber, one worked repairing computers, and the third was a store manager. Each said he had begun to feel uncomfortable in his favorite singles place about two years earlier.
Questions to ask your partner to maintain a healthy marriage Jan. The third man was a very active member of a large Baptist church. For him, the singles scene wabt church meetings and church singles functions.
Interestingly, he and the fellows who frequented bars and pool halls made Divorcced same comment. One said that the singles bar he used to visit was filled with teenyboppers, and he felt out of place. They had simply gotten too old for the crowd. It surprised us when they reported feelings identical to those of the younger high-school-educated men.
The places the professional single men went drew an older crowd. Among the professionals, the youngest women were college graduates and probably at least Professional men-unlike the younger men who had only completed high school-were perfectly at ease in their favorite singles places well into their thirties. Still, 30 percent of the single men with a postgraduate education said that as they approached thirty, they lasies to feel they no longer fit into their singles scene.
There were two notable exceptions to the age guidelines: men who were balding or heavy. A year-old man who was almost completely bald explained that he had felt uncomfortable in the singles scene after he had approached a young woman in a singles bar and asked if he could buy her a drink. Her response was to tell him, loud enough for everyone in the bar to hear, that it would be a good idea if he went home and kissed his wife and played with his.
When he protested, she became sarcastic. He could see he was losing snd argument not only with her but with the entire bar. He walked out and never went back. It is not how old they are that makes men uncomfortable, it is how old they feel, or how old others make them feel. An attorney, he told us he had been going to a restaurant for three years on Friday nights. It was a hangout for attorneys, marride, and others who worked in the court system.
Joe explained that the restaurant was usually full, and on Friday nights the bar area was crowded with young singles, while most of those seated at tables were older and married.
When he showed up one Friday night, there was a new hostess seating people. Joe was too embarrassed to contradict her, and he realized she was right — he no longer belonged at the bar. It was a series of small incidents over a period of time that turned them off-usually comments made by one or more young women that made them realize they no longer fit into the place they had frequented for years.
One of the focus groups composed of men about to marry said that if a woman wants to know whether a man is ready to get married, she should ask him how much he enjoys the singles scene. Bachelors for life? Once men reach age 47 to 50 without marrying, the chances they will marry do not disappear, but they drop dramatically.
Men who have been married before are open to remarry much later in life. They have entirely different relationships with women. If a woman in her forties or older who has never been married is dating a man who has never been married, the chance of him wajts is still good. Aant at that time in her life, most eligible men are either widowed or divorced, and their chances of marrying again are substantially higher than those of men of the same age who have never married.
In other words, if a woman meets two men in their late forties, one who has been married and the other a lifelong bachelor, she should choose the one who has been married before.
A stringer is a man who strings women along. He likes having a woman, sleeping with a woman, eating with a woman, possibly sharing his life with a woman without ever making a real commitment. He often tells women, up front, he never intends to marry, so if and when he decides he wants to cut out, she has no reason to complain. If you think you may be involved with a stringer, establish a deadline. Pay no attention to his excuses. In fact, he is likely to tell you anything that will get you to stick around without his needing to make a commitment.
The chances a stringer will marry are very slim; he is simply not the marrying kind. Earlier I mentioned those men who went with one woman for a time, then shortly thereafter went out and married another. This was the pattern, in fact, that initiated our research.
Helen Mirren's love advice: Don't rush into marriage Oct. The women who married these men insisted they commit nad in the relationship. We ran across at least fifty men we could identify as Divorceed. They can be very dangerous. I estimate each one is responsible for at least two women remaining single. They are destructive because they con women into wasting their time during the years when they are most attractive and most likely to get a proposal.
They stay with women, live with women, promise them marriage, and string them on and on indefinitely.
There is one surefire way to identify these men-they are usually repeat offenders. If he does not set a firm date, be on your guard. Biological clocks We spoke to xnd in their forties who were marrying for the first time. Their reason for marrying was different than that of the younger men we interviewed.
Many of these older men were eager to marry because their biological clock was running. Men forty-two and older who were about to marry looked forward to having children, and they almost unanimously pictured themselves as fathers of sons. They want to be young enough when their sons come along to teach them all the things fathers traditionally teach their sons-to ride a bicycle, to fish, to play ball, and so forth. Unpolished jewels We talked to dozens of men in their late thirties and early forties who had given up on the idea of marrying.
Most lacked one of three things-looks, height, or social skills. They had been rejected anc often that they had despaired of ever finding a woman who would love them or even put up with them. Many had been treated cruelly by women. If you al your own interest, you may find a nice guy who would love to settle down.
Only after being convinced you like him will he be able to summon the courage to ask you for a date. Approaching midlife, married couple adopts 3 kids from Haiti Jan. If you can help wxnts man overcome these feelings, you may find a real diamond in the rough. One thing impressed me: The Divofced who were not married were just as nice, just as intelligent, just as hardworking as the men who were.
Bad investments There is a possible drawback to dating a man aged 40 or older.
Many men at that age begin to look at women and marriage as a poor financial investment. Today, many of the women whom these men think are after their money earn far more than they do. Such men are hardly ever going to be the marrying kind. All couples need to discuss money, especially when either partner has assets and responsibilities. This, of course, affects women as well. We found that many single men and women in their late thirties and forties were products of divorce. The difference between older children of divorce and other confirmed bachelors is their reason Divvorced not being married.
They believe in living together, because in their minds, once people marry, the romance ends.
If you talk with them about marriage, they tend to be very open about what they believe. Often the women had to drag them to the altar. None of this is to suggest that if you meet a man whose parents were divorced, you should immediately cross him off your list. Socioeconomic factors Another crucial factor that influences the chances of a couple marrying is socioeconomic mix. Date men who will fit in with your friends and business associates.
Opposites may attract, but men and women from similar backgrounds marry. So bear in mind that a man is much more likely to marry you if he is from the same socioeconomic background as you are. When religion and politics mix Other factors that contribute to the likelihood of a relationship leading to marriage are religious beliefs and political persuasion.
Each of these has a relative value. Couples coming out of marriage bureaus confirmed these findings. A of them told us that before they met their intended, they had had a serious relationship in which religious differences caused one party to break it off. Your chances of marrying him are much greater than your chances of marrying the other man. The importance of belief systems cannot be underestimated, and this is also demonstrated in political areas.
Of course, there are exceptions. Bush for the presidency. In the focus group we put together to investigate political alignments in marriage, we discovered that many married couples were politically divided. We know more women vote Democratic than men, and more men vote Republican than women. Differences of opinions on core values such as abortion, capital punishment, or even disciplining children can divide a couple.
Think it over. People with similar beliefs and values tend to have similar outlooks on life and are usually more compatible.